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The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« on: September 29, 2012, 02:45:30 PM »
Hello everyone! The Kickstarter is NOW LIVE!  8)

You can check it out directly here:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gamesmiths/the-saga-of-dragon-star-and-nrg-core-rulebook-rpg

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Re: The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 04:51:42 PM »
This all looks awesome...

...but how do you pledge?  :o
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Re: The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 08:00:17 PM »
This all looks awesome...

...but how do you pledge?  :o

I like your enthusiasm! :) Our Kickstarter will go live on Monday, November 12th! In the meantime, please sign up for our newsletter on our homepage (www.gamesmithsllc.com) and Like our Facebook page, that way you will stay up to date on all announcements! Our Facebook page is here: www.facebook.com/Gamesmiths.

And, of course, feel free to email us directly from our About Us bios, and post here!

Welcome aboard, man! And please help spread the word!

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 10:17:41 PM »
Ugh!  Wish I could afford the Master Sorcerer or Dragon Lord levels...

Ready for the Kickstarter to begin.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 08:03:29 AM »
Ugh!  Wish I could afford the Master Sorcerer or Dragon Lord levels...

Ready for the Kickstarter to begin.

Well you know, we haven't heard much feedback on those levels yet; let your voice be heard! Do you think those are reasonable pledge amounts, or do you think they should be closer to 3-400?

Thanks for the continued support!
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Re: The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 09:11:34 AM »
Hello everyone!

Our Kickstarter begins in only 10 more days! Please note that details of the tier reward levels and stretch goals have changed!

Feedback still encouraged--thanks!

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Re: The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 08:41:25 AM »
RE: Malifer's

Sorry Malifer, I accidentally hit "remove" when I tried to hit "quote"!

But to speak to your points:

1) Do you think it would be better to hide the stretch goals, or do you think having better stretch goals would be more effective?

2) For the $100 level, I think we should make it more explicit that most of the stretch goals are only effective at this level. Do you think that would help, or do you think the $100 still seems unnattractive?

3) Many people have had the same reaction to the settings (liking one but not the other). Fortunately, people can pick and choose, and we hope you still pledge at an earlier level for the SW version of The Saga of Dragon Star!

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts--we really appreciate it!

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 06:36:21 AM »
RE: Malifer's

Sorry Malifer, I accidentally hit "remove" when I tried to hit "quote"!

But to speak to your points:

1) Do you think it would be better to hide the stretch goals, or do you think having better stretch goals would be more effective?

2) For the $100 level, I think we should make it more explicit that most of the stretch goals are only effective at this level. Do you think that would help, or do you think the $100 still seems unnattractive?

3) Many people have had the same reaction to the settings (liking one but not the other). Fortunately, people can pick and choose, and we hope you still pledge at an earlier level for the SW version of The Saga of Dragon Star!

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts--we really appreciate it!

No problem.

1. From my observations the hidden stretch goals, along with regular updates keep the word spreading and people checking in on the status. It also gives a bit of focus. If a stretch goal comes in reach that some backers get excited about then they are more likely to increase there pledge ( I know I have).

2. If there are any "physical" products certainly keeping those at the $100 level backers is acceptable. However you did have some electronic extras lined up for pdf contributors (it said backers of $10 or more, but the $15 level is 1 Pdf book).

There should probably be an E-pledged level for both pdf books and electronic related stretch goals, but I would be wary of putting it higher than the softcover level, so $20 would be great. There are a lot of "newer" or tech savy gamers that prefer the an E-version for their fancy tablet. Also there are a lot of gamers outside the U.S. or just tightening their belt that can afford the E-version lot easier than a hard copy.

Myself I prefer a hard copy.

As far as unattractive, for the first week the $100 level is great, it was just after that week it becomes lackluster. Since the old post is gone I'll jot down the numbers again.

$50 level + $50 add on  hardcopy = 2 hardcover book, 1 pdf

1st week $100 level = 2 hardcover books, 3 pdfs, GM Screen

After 1st week $100 = 1 hardcover book, 2 pdfs, GM Screen

After the first week I would rather go with $50 level with the $50 add-on and get 2 books, 1 pdf rather than have 2 pdfs, 1 book.

My idea was just to keep the "1st week" $100 level the whole Kickstarter campaign. If you want to incentivise it then put up a limited amount of Early Backers at a slightly lower price. It doesn't need to be much just a few dollars. If you need to adjust the level to add in the cost of the GM screen to say $110, then the Early backers could be $100 or $105.

Having an limited Early backer level for E-product not a bad idea either.

3. That's just they way of the world.  :D
I wish I had the time and a group that could learn and play a new system every month. I would like to try it NRG, but nowadays I just happy to get a handful of people at the table. Although I have to say the new VTTs like Roll20 and Tabletop forge are certainly helping alleviate that.

However both setting ideas Dragon Star and Sinbad seem great, and I will definitely be keeping my eye on this next week!

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2012, 10:23:24 AM »
I thought the 100 level was 2 hard covers + 1 more in the first week, I re-read and find I am wrong.

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Re: The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2012, 04:41:22 PM »
I think we will be adjusting the final so that there are 2 hcs at the $100 level. Thanks!

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Re: The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 08:23:20 PM »
RE: Malifer's

Sorry Malifer, I accidentally hit "remove" when I tried to hit "quote"!

But to speak to your points:

1) Do you think it would be better to hide the stretch goals, or do you think having better stretch goals would be more effective?

2) For the $100 level, I think we should make it more explicit that most of the stretch goals are only effective at this level. Do you think that would help, or do you think the $100 still seems unnattractive?

3) Many people have had the same reaction to the settings (liking one but not the other). Fortunately, people can pick and choose, and we hope you still pledge at an earlier level for the SW version of The Saga of Dragon Star!

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts--we really appreciate it!

No problem.

1. From my observations the hidden stretch goals, along with regular updates keep the word spreading and people checking in on the status. It also gives a bit of focus. If a stretch goal comes in reach that some backers get excited about then they are more likely to increase there pledge ( I know I have).

2. If there are any "physical" products certainly keeping those at the $100 level backers is acceptable. However you did have some electronic extras lined up for pdf contributors (it said backers of $10 or more, but the $15 level is 1 Pdf book).

There should probably be an E-pledged level for both pdf books and electronic related stretch goals, but I would be wary of putting it higher than the softcover level, so $20 would be great. There are a lot of "newer" or tech savy gamers that prefer the an E-version for their fancy tablet. Also there are a lot of gamers outside the U.S. or just tightening their belt that can afford the E-version lot easier than a hard copy.

Myself I prefer a hard copy.

As far as unattractive, for the first week the $100 level is great, it was just after that week it becomes lackluster. Since the old post is gone I'll jot down the numbers again.

$50 level + $50 add on  hardcopy = 2 hardcover book, 1 pdf

1st week $100 level = 2 hardcover books, 3 pdfs, GM Screen

After 1st week $100 = 1 hardcover book, 2 pdfs, GM Screen

After the first week I would rather go with $50 level with the $50 add-on and get 2 books, 1 pdf rather than have 2 pdfs, 1 book.

My idea was just to keep the "1st week" $100 level the whole Kickstarter campaign. If you want to incentivise it then put up a limited amount of Early Backers at a slightly lower price. It doesn't need to be much just a few dollars. If you need to adjust the level to add in the cost of the GM screen to say $110, then the Early backers could be $100 or $105.

Having an limited Early backer level for E-product not a bad idea either.

3. That's just they way of the world.  :D
I wish I had the time and a group that could learn and play a new system every month. I would like to try it NRG, but nowadays I just happy to get a handful of people at the table. Although I have to say the new VTTs like Roll20 and Tabletop forge are certainly helping alleviate that.

However both setting ideas Dragon Star and Sinbad seem great, and I will definitely be keeping my eye on this next week!

I realy appreciate you taking the time to lay all this out again! Please see our revision above based largely on your feedback, as well as others in the community!  :D

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Re: The Saga of Dragon Star & N.R.G. Core Rulebook/ GOAL: $15,000
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2012, 10:55:55 PM »
The Kickstarter is now live!!!